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Trans discrimination II via Clare Flourish

Gisberta Salce

Trans discrimination II by Clare Flourish

“It is not a free speech issue. You’re a man, really has little value as speech. Why would anyone want to be rude to me? To exercise power over me, to oppress me. A pointless, thoughtless cruelty for the sake of it. What do they gain? A fraudulent sense of their own correctness, understanding and control- but they don’t understand or control anything, not really.

The freedom that matters is the freedom to live your life as you choose. Freedom of speech has value where it allows people to work out new ways of living, but not when it restricts us. I harm no-one by expressing my femininity. I should not be deterred from it by the fear of not getting a job, or housing, or services. There is no value in being able to say to another, Ew! I disapprove of you!– unless that person is doing something which clearly harms someone else.”

Source: Trans discrimination II | Clare Flourish

Clare’s text doesn’t really need the addition of my comments, it’s self-explanatory. What I will do, however, is in the next few days tell you the story of that woman you see in the photograph at the top of this page. Here’s a ballad dedicated to her by Maria Bethania. It ends with:

I came with little
I left with less
And the distance to the bottom is so small
At the bottom, it’s so small
The fall.

And love is far
Love is so far

And pain so close (for the original Portuguese scroll down)

Trouxe pouco,
Levo menos,
E a distância até o fundo é tão pequena,
No fundo, é tão pequena,
A queda.

E o amor é tão longe,
O amor é tão longe;

E a dor é tão perto.

20 comments on “Trans discrimination II via Clare Flourish

  1. anisioluiz2008
    July 28, 2017

    Reblogged this on O LADO ESCURO DA LUA.

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  2. Esme upon the Cloud
    July 28, 2017

    Gisberta Salce – I’ve just read about her and it’s so terrible, so beyond reason, the poor woman, I am in tears. For her, and for Clare – (such a beautifully written post as you said), and all who are so cruelly discriminated against in this way. I echo you again – being in the 21st century makes it all the more heinous. Humanity crawls forwards so slowly, and as it does it destroys so many lives along the way. (My comment is almost the same at Clare’s place, because I wanted to say it all again.)

    – esme x

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  3. acflory
    July 28, 2017

    Oh my god, I just looked up Gisberta too. How can any sane society condone /torture/ and murder? And what in god’s name will those boys grow up to be? This is so awful I feel as if it’s from a horror story.

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    • The Pink Agendist
      July 28, 2017

      It’s living proof of how discrimination is rationalised. Have you seen a documentary called Einsatzgruppen, The Nazi Death Squads? It has real footage of Jews being yelled at and beaten on the streets – and *average* people joining in. Spitting, throwing rocks. In the case of Gisberta there were 1001 justifications, all heavily dependent on us believing she was not quite a human being.

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      • acflory
        July 28, 2017

        I’ll be honest, I’m not brave enough to watch things like that, but I do have experience of that ‘feeding frenzy’ type of behaviour. Not in real life but in games. Sometimes one player will be picked on by someone in general chat [that’s like an open channel that everyone can read]. In minutes, others have joined in until there’s a large group of players, all spewing abuse at just one person. And the worst part of it is that anyone with half a brain can see that the excuse is paper thin.
        I’ve tried to intervene a couple of times but the ringleaders just shrug off any dissent as being a ‘care bear’. It’s mob mentality despite the fact that no one is physically in the same location.
        I don’t know what that says about human nature but it’s not good. I don’t think those boys who tortured Gisberta were completely human any more.

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      • The Pink Agendist
        July 28, 2017

        It’s hard to watch, but if anyone wants to see:

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      • docatheist
        July 29, 2017

        There is only one glaring tidbit the writer ignores, though it shows up in his description over and over: Gisberta was a woman murdered by men. Although I can imagine a group of women below adult age doing the same to a transgender man, I do not hear of it in the news.

        Gisberta had a long list of characteristics making her obviously vulnerable to bullies, who are too cowardly to ever pick a fair fight. The more vulnerable she was, the more they were drawn to her, until she attracted a utter mob of bullies with psychopathic mentality.

        So let’s list her vulnerabilities, perhaps in some useful order:
        (1) She was alone, no one to defend or protect her, isolated from view in an abandoned building where the attack could be hidden from society’s view.
        (2) She was a transgender person, outcast from society and therefore targeted for elimination.
        (3) She was a woman, seen as subhuman by men who believe they rule the world, weaker than a man by her position in society as well as (or if not also) her physiology.
        (4) She was poor, therefore she lacked social connections who might protect her under the umbrella of their power and influence in society — leading to (1), above.
        (5) She was sick, leading to far greater weakness and poverty –>(4)–>(1).
        (6) She was a sex worker, which was, perhaps, the only way she, as a transgender woman, could earn enough to buy the food to stay alive, and it is likely she would have contracted HIV/AIDS from this level of exposure coupled with the poor nutrition of the starving homeless, whether she actually got it that way or from a real relationship.
        (7) She was a drug addict. Outcast from society, barely subsisting on sex work, she couldn’t exactly go to the theatre for the recreation humans require for mental health. She probably couldn’t even find a good, therapeutic hug, most times. Of course, she turned to the only outlet left, to escape her psychological pain, to relax the extreme level of stress under which she lived day by day by day.

        (*) From her picture, she was also strikingly beautiful. Beauty attracts, for good or evil. She wasn’t ugly enough to be ignored. Where this ranks, in the above list, is unclear.

        Many would have committed suicide before obtaining even two or three such vulnerabilities. Suicide prevention courses love to teach that men actually succeed in committing suicide far more frequently than women, while women show up in ERs with far more failed suicide attempts. They imply the men are braver and stronger. I disagree — and have done, in the midst of such a course, in a filled hall, in the American military. The fact is that women must have a stronger survival instinct, as survival of our species depends on that. Do the numbers.

        Gisberta could have given up and died anywhere along the way, even earlier in her murderous end days, but she survived until they utterly deprived her of oxygen, drowning her, bound and beaten and sexually destroyed. She would have continued to live even longer, otherwise. She was that strong. Gisberta was superhuman.

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  4. docatheist
    July 28, 2017

    OMG, I am shocked at the extent of brutal suffering they put her through, all the way to her last desperate gasp for air!!!! May they burn for this — not in Hell because it doesn’t exist, but in some situation they bring on themselves while engaged in some other misbehavior, one that only involves each other. And may their screams for help reach the ears of no one.

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    • docatheist
      July 28, 2017

      May those who heard the screams of Gisberta Salce, who did nothing, also suffer in deafness and in death, soon, and may even their families forget them.

      Liked by 1 person

    • john zande
      July 29, 2017

      I second this.

      Liked by 1 person

  5. Clare Flourish
    July 28, 2017

    Thank you for the link. I had not heard of Gisberta Salce, and found this: even those who are seen as communities of support and recognition perpetuate discourses of gender binary norms, and the only apparent possibility to humanize and transcend these norms is materialized in artistic performance and production, which allows for a more emotional connection to the ‘subject’ as a human individual rather than a mere transgression.

    I want people to see me as a person, not as a problem, or a pervert, or a subhuman. To look at me for a moment rather than launching in to what they want to say to me.

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    • docatheist
      July 28, 2017

      — quietly standing, applauding, looking you in the eye, seeing you as a person, and then offering a warm hug —

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    • The Pink Agendist
      July 29, 2017

      I’ll think of you as two or even three people to compensate 😀 I’ll even call you Clares from now one


    • karenjane
      July 31, 2017

      This whole thread has made me cry (not something I often do). I suppose I am somewhat naive in that I am always surprised & horrified how people can be so nasty to others, on the basis they are different to them. It’s not something I can do, I treat people kindly & the suffering of Gisberta & all the people like her upsets me. And Clare, I have only ‘met’ you here, but I send you a huge hug & my heartfelt wish that one day everybody will see you as a person, the kind, special lovely woman who comes across in all the posts from you I read.
      Now I will wipe away my tears, & go shopping, smiling at everyone I see (they will probably think I’m crazy, as smiling at strangers where I live rarely gets a positive reponse, but I don’t care). xx

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  6. Bela Johnson
    July 29, 2017

    “There is no value in being able to say to another, Ew! I disapprove of you!– unless that person is doing something which clearly harms someone else.”

    This simple logic appeals to any developed mind. Unfortunately there is rampant stupidity running rabid in the world today, and people such as our current president, for example, give tacit permission for the ignorant to act out in the most despicable, deplorable ways.

    It’s my opinion that these perpetrators harbor immense self hatred. And yet why are there laws to protect if this protection inures only to a certain elite group of our species? So shameful.

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  7. john zande
    July 29, 2017

    Three days. Three days. If these boys could do that to another human being, over THREE DAYS, could you just imagine what they would/could do to animals?

    I am, sadly, so often sickened by our species.

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