What Trump Exposed About the G.O.P. – The New York Times
Best analysis yet. By a mile!
By MARK SCHMITT
NOV. 11, 2016
The election of 2016 is the culmination of this ideological era, but ironically reveals its hollowness. The politics of 2016 breaks entirely along lines of identity: first race or ethnicity, followed by gender, level of education, urbanization and age.
The first mystery of the year was how Donald Trump won his party’s nomination, but more important, why 16 others, including popular governors and senators, lost. The answer is simply that all the others thought the key to the Republican base was ideology. Some, such as Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, styled themselves as the purest and most adamant of conservatives, others as just practical enough to deliver on conservative goals and one (Gov. John Kasich) as sort of a moderate. None of them clicked with the Republican base, simply because ideology wasn’t what motivated the base. It was always about identity, about them and us. Only Mr. Trump had that key.
Full text: What Trump Exposed About the G.O.P. – The New York Times
My Mazamet 
The New York Times is a well paid mouthpiece for the Clinton Campaign and the Democrat Party.
Consequently, whatever they opine, you can rest assured that the truth is the exact opposite.
This election was all about ideology.
The American People sent the Obama agenda and its lap dog Hillary, packing.
We hate ObamaCare.
Climate Change is for idiots.
Dividing the American People according race, gender, sexual preference, religion, income must end!
Yes, that this election was 100% about ideology couldn’t be more obvious.
Who reads a proven lying rag like the New York Times and believes any of it?
People completely driven by ideology, like you, Mr. Merveilleux.
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Have you forgotten to take your medication today?
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Mr. Merveilleux,
I am a Trump voter, telling you about our political ideology.
And instead of trying to learn something, you tell me to go take a pill.
Do you know that assigning poor mental health to political enemies is what the NAZI’s and the Soviet Communists did?
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A wall doesn’t qualify as ideology.
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Mr. Merveilleux,
The Wall, as you call it, is an extremely powerful symbol of political ideology.
It is so powerful a symbol, in fact, that it has the ubermensch (you, Ruth, JZ, Violet, Tildeb) coming out of the woodwork to show their true colors.
The Wall symbolizes the rule of law that is so necessary for the exist of civil society.
The ubermensch don’t care about the rule of law because their glorious, carefree lives are such that they are never affected by the chaos and ruin that lawlessness brings..
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Poor SOM, Trump has already walked back his WALLLLL…. It’s now going to be a fence, in places, not the whole border, of course.
And I see the REPEAL Obamacare is now “Amend” it.
And GET RID OF DODD FRANK, is now “Well, no, we’ll keep that.”
So many broken promises and its just been 24hrs.
You fool.
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I hadn’t heard the Dodd Frank news yet. This is going to be hilarious 😀
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Bloomberg reported it yesterday.
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Yesterday on CBC Sam Harris was being interviewed. He says that the best everyone can hope for is that all those rash campaign promises that tRump made were just ‘playing the crowd’ – and that, when it comes down to running the country, better sense will prevail. Indeed, for many, it’s the most hopeful outlook. Certainly in his acceptance speech he did not seem like the same man whose hateful rhetoric captivated many. We shall see.
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So, you’re saying SOM was “played”? 😉
Poor little camper… lied to like that, and swept up hopelessly in the sweet deception.
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You probably read that gibberish in the New York Times.
The Wall will be big bad and beautiful and Mexico will pay for it.
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Keep on dreamin’. . ..
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That’s the spirit.
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Have you seen this… very funny.
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LOL! That’s great! He’s the beast, the beast, the beast!
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JZ, I’m reminded of that line from ‘The Castle’ (which I used at my daughter’s wedding, by the way -she who married the Aussie)
“Tell ‘im he’s dray-min'” 🙂
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John,
THE Donald hasn’t even taken office yet and you folks are still hallucinating Hillary’s way to total victory.
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. . . and he’s sounding out Jamie Dimon for Treasury Secretary. That’s the same Jamie Dimon that a few weeks ago was, according to him, “the worst banker on Wall St.”
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Oh Carmen, just laughing now because all I can hear is Dennis Denuto.
“It’s the constitution, it’s Mabo,it’s justice, it’s the law, it’s the vibe… And… ah, no that’s it, it’s the vibe.” Same speechwriter as Trump used throughout the entire campaign. And we all know Dennis won too. 😀
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Election campaign and the presidency are two different games. Different rules, different goals. I’m sure, Trump-president will be a lot different from Trump-candidate.
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Has history ever shown a narcissist with serious mental disorders improving after they get hold of power?
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I’m only 38, there’s still time!
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Rio needs a leader.
The whole state went bankrupt yesterday.
Another stunning PT success story.
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I’ve checked… I’d only get elected based on name alone in the Nordeste 🙂 So Rio is out.
Plus, the dogs don’t like change.
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Bah. A clown, literally, a fucking clown with make-up and a hat and big shoes and all that shit, was elected to the senate here.
You’re a shoe-in.
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Because of my hat or make up that I must buy? 😀
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LOL.
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I can believe anything after these ejections. I will not be surprised if he gets impeached after 3 months in the office or end up being more popular than Reagan.
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I’m betting on Rape/Sexual Assault charges by May, 2017.
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That’s not an impeachable offence.
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Rape isn’t?
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In theory or in practice?
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Both?
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In theory, rape is impeachable, of course. But I can’t remember anyone removed from office for sexual offences.
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Consensual sex is fine, like Monica and Bill. That’s no one’s business but there’s. Sexually assaulting women, as Trump boasts he does, must surely be grounds for removal.
But like I said, before May, 2017, he will have raped someone… or many.
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There’s a difference between boasting and doing. Will see.
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Why is it that, after hearing he had appointed some family members to his white house transition team (members who are taking control of his businesses so as not to create a future conflict of interest), all I can imagine is the slow descent into an oligarchy…
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That’s what I want for Christmas! Oligarchy.
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Hmmm… how on earth am I going to wrap it for you though…?
I know! Crisp, new, Russian Rubles… 😀
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hmmm, seems that Trump rather likes the Affordable Care Act and is now only talking about altering it. http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-willing-to-keep-parts-of-health-law-1478895339
And plenty of Americans enjoy the Affordable Care Act, including me. Alas, SOM, you and others like you aren’t the only Americans.
Now what, SOM, when even your president-elect disagrees with you and isn’t going to do what he promised?
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Club,
I’ve been exempted from the “Affordable” Care Act because it’s too expensive.
You are either filthy rich or a big fat liar.
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I get health insurance through my employer as part of my benefits. They pay part and I pay part.
Your claim doesn’t make much sense. How were you exempted from the ACA because it is “too expensive”? Are you trying to say that you cannot get coverage through the ACA because you do not qualify? That you cannot afford the insurance through the ACA? That you make too much money to qualify for the subsidies?
What it does seem like is that you have no idea what the ACA actually is. It is not only allowing people to get coverage so they aren’t making me pay for them by going to emergency rooms and then defaulting on paying, thus making the hospital charge more to me since they’ve lost money. I like the ACA because it does make people accountable for their own health care. I also like it because some things I need have been made much more affordable through it. It isn’t terribly surprising that you have no idea what you are attacking.
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Club,
You are one of the few lucky ones who still has a full time job.
People like me are hired part time now because employers can’t afford to pay the ObamaCare health benefit.
Ironically, I work for the leftist university system.
They actually made a joke that they couldn’t hire me full time because of ObamaCare.
They get to laugh, because like you, they have full time jobs.
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well, SOM, I am glad that you liked e.g. approve of and agree with my post that shows your claims about Trump to be lies. It’s great to see that you like a post that shows that you have no answer to what happens when Trump betrays you and your claims.
wow, SOM is again completely detached from reality. the ACA doesn’t prevent employers from paying the health benefit or having full time people rather than part time. That is the company’s choice. Welcome to capitalism, SOM! Where if you have someone who wants to make profits on the backs of their employees, they can.
And hmmm, just what university can’t afford to give their employees benefits like health care, SOM? And tsk, such a hypocrite, sucking at the teat of that you claim to hate so much. Considering your track record, there is little reason to believe any of your claims, especially about employment, but they could be true. I will not bother asking you for where you work.
Now, we have actual stats to show you are, again, a liar: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
and http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t09.htm
the last is the best to show that plenty of people have full time jobs, see the rows about full and part-time jobs and how they’ve consistently gotten better.
We also only have your baseless claim about a “joke”, again something that could be true but has nothing to support it and a great history of lies behind it.
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Can I ask exactly what it is you hate about obamacare? For some decades we have had a universal health care system, which we all contribute to through our taxes, and if either party took it away it would be political suicide.
I’m not sure why limiting healthcare to only those who can afford it isn’t seen as quite elitist. I imagine that not being able to easily access medical treatment for your family is probably part of the resentment against the ‘system’ that fuelled support towards Trump. Does he have another thing in mind, or does he just want to return the old way of doing things?
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I imagine he thinks *Obamacare* is going to make white women not want to go to bed with white men anymore 😀
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you are such a troll . Hugs
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Sorry I thought when I posted that it would have gone under Som, comment. see it did not. sorry again. Hugs
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It did!
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The other thing that should be obvious is that there’s millions of Americans who think just like SoM. . . dog forbid. 😦
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Absolutely. Identity politics, much like religion, is inherited.
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Here’s something else you might want to peruse, Mr. M. I put in on someone else’s site (I don’t think it was yours ?)
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trumps-worldview-mirrors-most-archaic-and-apocalyptic-christian-beliefs
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Carmen,
Christian beliefs from the 1st century after Christ were extremely optimistic.
Who on Earth is feeding you all this crap about Christian beliefs being so negative?
Also, how on Earth can you think that THE Donald is so negative?
He is one of the most optimistic, prosperous human beings on the planet.
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“Also, how on Earth can you think that THE Donald is so negative?”
Anyone else chuckling, here? 😉
Gee, SoM, I just can’t imagine why. . .
“Who on Earth is feeding you all this crap about Christian beliefs being so negative?”
umm. . . you want names, SoM?
– the men who wrote the Bible (my least favourite fiction)
– People like you, CS, and your ilk who make fools of yourselves doing just that, pretty much every comment you make (that would include the comments on this very thread)
* she shakes her head *
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Yes 😀 chuckling.
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Carmen,
The Bible is about love, freedom and justice.
You can’t know that because you’ve never read it.
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Actually, SoM, that’s one of the most powerful reasons I became an atheist.
I read the Bible.
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Carmen,
Your comprehension of the Bible is exactly the same as if your read a book on quantum physics.
You just don’t have the brain power or the education to understand what you are reading.
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. .. this, coming from the man who didn’t know Aristotle referred to women as deformed males. 😉
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I really wish I could slot this in the right spot!
In reply to SoM saying
“Your comprehension of the Bible is exactly the same as if your read a book on quantum physics.
You just don’t have the brain power or the education to understand what you are reading.”
Are you saying belief is only valid when people are educated to a certain level within that system? Does the belief shown by the unintelligent count less, even if it is just as dearly held? Wow.
Studies show that religiosity declines as the level of education grows. If you understand a book on quantum physics you have likely already surpassed the level of intelligence of most bible believers.
Actually, rembering those bible studies classes in my youth, I believe that comprehending the bible has been reduced to following the apparently enlightened instructions within the church hierarchy, a specific ideology, rather than accepting the teachings on face value.
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Carmen,
Donald Trump was elected by the American people of whom I am but one.
You’re going to have to get over the fact that Democrat Party fascism has been rejected in a fight that they had totally rigged.
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No he wasn’t. He lost the popular vote by a mile.
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Illegal aliens.
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You’re living in a dream world, SoM. Actually, it’s more a nightmare world. 😦
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Carmen,
President Obama was on national television telling illegals to exercise there right as American citizens to vote.
He promised that breaking the law that way would have no repercussions.
Reality is not a dream world.
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Hateful bigotry won the election pure and simple. I weep for society at large.
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Fool,
Accusing the political opposition of being hateful bigots is an example of hateful bigotry.
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What’s disappointing about the article is that it still doesn’t treat the Trump candidacy seriously. It’s almost like he stole something, rather than getting enough votes to get the presidency. Thus, I think it highlights a problem that the left isn’t treating the right with credibility.
Moreover, I think that it also neglects facts that might give people on the left hope. With all of the people that turned out to vote for Trump, he still didn’t get a majority of popular votes. His electorate generally was older and whiter than Ms. Clinton’s. Yes, he energized many voters who would have stayed at home (and Clinton did not energize people enough to vote for her), but it still wasn’t enough.
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I think people are scared to treat his candidacy seriously. By doing so we’d have to admit to some very uncomfortable truths.
Not least of which is that, even if we accept that not all his voters are xenophobic/sexist/homophobic/racist- we can’t divorce that from the idea that they are, at the very least, willing to live with those things.
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Mr. Merveilleux,
Not treating reality seriously is an example of delusional thinking.
THE Donald is part of a movement.
If he fails, the movement will find someone else.
We are done with Democrat Party fascism.
It’s had a 100 year run.
Now it’s over.
Like just after the American Civil War, our society will now undergo reconstruction.
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Yes, from a Jungian perspective, he embodies the national Shadow. At least now it’s out and in the open. What we, collectively, choose to do with and about it is going to be interesting. To say the least. Aloha.
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Christopher Ketcham agrees with you: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/13/anarchist-for-trump-time-for-liberals-to-see-america-as-it-really-is.html
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Yes, we definitely need to know This Is Us. No matter how ugly it may appear. We can only hide from these less savory aspects so long. And now, (cringe, cringe), they have been splayed out in the open for the world to see. And us, as well. Not a pretty sight. Definitely not. Aloha, dear MM.
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He drew votes and esp traditionally dem voters because blue collar America is tired of the PC culture, every one seems to have some political advocacy support except people that work, working people pay for all the free stuff the left demands, jobs exported, illegal immigration bankrupting services of cities and communities and tired of being called racist just for being white.
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But who do you think exports jobs and benefits most from illegal immigration? And which party has defended corporate interests the most for the past few decades?
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Credit to anyone who can stomach responding to these racist Christian morons.
On the other hand, Gregg Popovich, coach of the San Antonio Spurs, said some of the most affecting words in this whole season:
“One could go on and on, we didn’t make this stuff up. He’s angry at the media because they reported what he said and how he acted. That’s ironic to me. It makes no sense. So that’s my real fear, and that’s what gives me so much pause and makes me feel so badly that the country is willing to be that intolerant and not understand the empathy that’s necessary to understand other group’s situations. I’m a rich white guy, and I’m sick to my stomach thinking about it. I can’t imagine being a Muslim right now, or a woman, or an African American, a Hispanic, a handicapped person. How disenfranchised they might feel. And for anyone in those groups that voted for him, it’s just beyond my comprehension how they ignore all of that. My final conclusion is, my big fear is — we are Rome.”
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Decline of Empire has occurred to me, over and over again.
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I think he was picked precisely because, while blunt, he’s fearless. He’s misunderstood by both RNC AND DNC because he’s abandoned to his cause. I completely agree; not an ideolog. Thanks!
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